Would it be considered beastiality if you had sex with a wookie? Why or why not? Please show your work.

well first we have to understand exactly what the word bestiality means. the dictionary describes it as, "Sexual relations between a human and an animal." now we need to know the exact definition of an animal. "An animal organism other than a human, especially a mammal." so by definition... is sex with a wookie considered bestiality? upon definition, yes. and damn is it ever disgusting.

But wookies are sentient.. so they're more human then animal..

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hu-man n. 1. A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H. sapiens.
From: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Using that definition, no, they're not humans.

However, I would like to put down the following definition.
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hu-man adj. 2. Having or showing those positive aspects of nature and character regarded as distinguishing humans from other animals
From: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Now, what are these positive aspects? What do humans have that other animals don't?

That is a serious question, one that can be taken off in various directions. However, for the sake of arguement, let's state that humans exclusively have an appreciation for aesthetics and the ability to seek understanding of the self.

Now, Wookies most likely have an appreciation of aesthetics: While they don't wear clothes, they do have homes, and I *believe* they have an occasional decoration... Somebody verify that?

The thing that is surprisingly easy to debate is the ability to seek understanding of the self. While it is known that linguisticly they realize the self exists, no verifiable evidence exists that says they have any of the normal mediums of exploration: Religion, literature, philosophy, etc. But seeing as they were exposed to these things, if they have the ability to understand them, which I do believe they do, then they have the ability to seel understanding of the self.

So, Wookies are human. Having intercourse with them is not bestiality, as bestiality is sex between a human and an animal.

wookies have homes, and are humans in almost every sense of the word. (yes, i'm a SW geek from back in the day.) their technology is more advanced than that of most planets. you'll see more of that in Episode 3, though.

on the topic, i think it's open to interpretation. i was just going with the most widely accepted definition of human, animal, and bestiality. bestiality is also under the negative connotation that conception cannot occur. which in this case is true.

so i think that in most of the few definitions of bestiality, sex with a wookie is bestiality. (i never thought i'd hear myself say that.)

i think a better question is whether or not i am allowed to use the word Ewok in scrabble.

heck, is a goat commiting an act of bestiality when the farmer has sex with it too?

If a goat were to initiate the intercourse, then yes, I'm pretty sure.

but even if (s)he does not initiate, they are still in the sexual act with me.

er, did i say "me?" i meant "him."

I really don't think you can consider Wookies human. But I don't thing "sex between a human and an animal" is a good definition of beastiality, because humans are animals.

i agree. i suppose we could define bestiality as sex between a human and a non-human. and a wookie (bearing human-like traits) would just be considered a humanoid. humanoids are considered non-human.

i think our work here is done. sex with a wookie is indeed considered bestiality by official and universal definition.

tell your friends.

I remember this conversation happening on one of the *Chans, 4 or 5. Someone posted Star Wars porn with wookies and then they were banned and it started this weird intellectual flame war about what makes someone human. That's my little story.

Then the question is raised, "Why is beastiality immoral?"

Is it because it involves copulating with a creature that you cannot reproduce with (a member of another species) and is therefore sex for reasons other than procreation (the only definition of moral sex in some religions)

Or is it because it involves copulating with an entity not capable of consent, making it statutory rape?

Or is it because it's just icky? In which case who gets to decide what's icky enough to be illegal?

And if the answer is #2, Since Wookies are sapient beings capable of giving consent, does that make (consensual) sex with a wookie a moral version of beastiality?

Bestiallity is fine by me, so long as no ones forcing me to watch it, but what isn't acseptible is rape, that really makes me sick. If your genuinly in love with an animal, go ahead and have at it, but only if the animal

1. Is of normal mating age for its species,and

2. Initiates the act

Any other situation could reasonably be considered rape, and, I'm sorry, I can consider alot of things OK, but robbing someone (Human or Animal) of there freedom to choose who to or who not to copulate with is just plain wrong

I don't think anyone was condoning rape with a capital R. But statutory rape is about being able to give consent, not about being of normal mating age.

A person can be physically ready to have sex way before what ever state or country they live in says they are capable of making an informed decision about all the ramifications of sex.

Beastiality is illegal in most places. Either because of a perceived need to legislate morality, or because it is considered "animal abuse" because the animal is not intelligent enought to make an informed decision. (not that sex is as much of a big deal for most animals)

But a wookie, or any other intelligent nonhuman from space would be capable of such a decision. And since we've more or less decided that sex with a wookie is beastiality, I was asking if it would be considered a moral form of beastiality or not.

And Lich, I started the thread because someone brought it up at a party and it generated an interesting discussion, and I wanted to see what kind of a discussion it would generate on a web forum full of people with different backgrounds.

On the other hand, many if our comics involve intelligent beings of different species. Some TWC comics involve implied or blatant romances between species, so it might be a useful academic discussion.

as dumb as it sounds, morals are more a matter of opinion than they are a matter of society of even religion. people have a way of distorting the law and religion in their own head just to suit the lifestyle they lead.

why do i consider bestiality immoral? because of the consent reasoning. i hold animals at a higher respect for humans. (and bestiality is just screwed up anyways. but that's just my opinion speaking. hard not to speak your true opinion on something as odd as this.)